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The question’s not whether there is or is not a God, but is there proof?

On “Springer” when they want one side to win they set some unstable genetic fragment up to defend the losing side. On this subject we may all fit the category. I've spent time around scientists and creative free-thinking people. There are few who believe straight up church dogma, even less who believe in no spirituality. Faith seems to be the issue. Atheists have faith in science? Religious have faith in a supreme spirit? Seems the agnostics are the only ones that can prove they're stance. Agnostics or "not knowers" don't know. The rest claim to… what?

One issue is the structure of “Proof” and what is considered “Proof". Most is based on 5 senses and the rest on democratic and technocratic consensus. That is, if we all see it it's real.... that other guy takes the medicine. If all but one scientist feels that the sun circles the earth we don't buy the odd guy’s book or we burn him at the stake. Under the current set of proofs.... love cannot be proved.

Consider... Man is superior to the computer in certain respects, that we created it and not visa versa. If one wanted a true calculation from a computer we would have to run multiple tests to get a higher validity value. The more tests the higher the rating of it not being a mal-function, so if we asked 6 billion people if there is a supreme being... that would be considered 6 billion tests. It's considerably more than 90%. That doesn’t make it true, only popular. These people make up the intellectual community as well and of similar demographics. The problem is folks who want to tell people what to do and claim ‘God said’ or tell another what to feel or think. The idea that an omni present, all powerful, creator of all couldn't or wouldn't also create evolution would be a contradiction. All is All.

What we have proved in history is ... People love to push people around. People love to promote ideas that fit or make them comfortable. People will change the peg if the hole isn’t' right or change the hole if the peg won't change. We are not comfortable with NON SOLUTION. We will take wrong answers in lieu of no answers. The words ”I DON’T KNOW" are intellectual sin.

It seems there is more we don't know than do. There is more to be done than has been done. On any given second there is more in front of us than we can take in or account for. Basically we are bathed in ignorance, so the human mind truly works off of estimates, guesstimates and hunches.
 
It would be easier to believe that there was a God and we didn't see it than to say we know there isn't without any doubt. Maybe folks that do or don't believe might seriously examine what they think and feel. Have a unique individual experience. Then be open. Regardless, let’s be kind to one another.





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On Friday November 30th, 2007, Nill (165) writes:
Just cause I like the saying. An absence of God no more makes religion as the absence of a rocket makes a space program.


On Thursday September 27th, 2007, The Zebra Warrior (2401) writes:
hmmmm.....interesting and deep; if only "Graffiti Prophet" had been written more along the lines like this you wouldn't have had to mail me....odd thing life


On Wednesday September 26th, 2007, blue (1702) writes:
There is so much I'd like to add to this, but let me just say this: I commend your insight, your delivery was both intelligent and sincere, and I tend to agree with your points. We all have done it, taken unprovables and made them a truth in our lives.


On Wednesday September 26th, 2007, blue (1702) writes:
And I've personally found that when I suspend my ego, and the learned behaviours things come a little clearer. This is not to say I have any answers, but more to the point I begin to see my faults in regard to such blind faiths and such.


On Wednesday September 26th, 2007, blue (1702) writes:
"to know that you do not know is best, to not know of knowing is a disease" One of my fav quotes. But that aside, again, your sincerity comes through and with certain poignancy with your end line. Yes, we must above all adhere ourselves to treating each o


On Wednesday September 26th, 2007, blue (1702) writes:
..each other well. ~b


On Wednesday September 26th, 2007, bpathos (20) writes:
Real proof takes real facts. If all the facts are in essence bricks of faith... the proof becomes a larger product of faith. One can't get a cat from dog parts. Mans finite knowledge base is not sufficent to 'Prove' infinites like truth, facts, ulitmates.


On Wednesday September 26th, 2007, An Expired Member (3) writes:
-becomes true to and for us. the way i see it, how can a tiny bacteria proove that it is within or that there is such a thing as a human body? so the same, how can we proove that there is a god or that we are within him?


On Wednesday September 26th, 2007, An Expired Member (3) writes:
when i was younger i always searched for the answer to this question...i studied many many religions trying to find the one that would fit me, one that would lead me to truth. i figured out along the way...we create what is true, if we believe it it becom



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